JOHN: “You don’t even get there. Because you can’t get through the door ‘cuz of the color of your shoes.”
PAUL: (laughs) “But you know, people are normally… Big companies are so big that if you’re little and good it takes you like 60 years to make it. And so people miss out on these little good people.”
JOHN: “It just takes ’em longer.”
PAUL: “So we’re trying to find a few.”
JG: “Paul, is that because of your background? You came from a poor background.”
JOHN: “No, it’s no sort of… it’s just a common thing.”
PAUL: “There’s a little bit of that.”
JG: “If you didn’t feel it as a youngster, you wouldn’t feel it now.”
JOHN: “Yeah.”
PAUL: “Yeah that’s right, you know. It’s just ‘cuz, we know what we had to fight to, sort of…”
JG: “Was it tough for you to get started?”
JOHN: “Well, no tougher than anybody else, you see, but George said, ‘I’m sick of being told to keep out of the park.’ That’s what it’s about, you know. We’re trying to make a park for people to come in and do what they want.”
PAUL: (comical voice) “Symbolically speaking.”
(laughter)
JG: “Is he the spokesman, would you say, John?”
JOHN: “Well, if his spokes are working, he is. And if mine are…”
(laughter)
JG: “Do you have the privacy that you’re leading me to believe you have, or is it a tough job?”
JOHN: “We have enough to keep us sane, you know. If we are sane– we have enough.”
(laughter)
JOHN: “But it’s not like touring. Our life isn’t like a tour, or like ‘A Hard Day’s Night’ or any of those things. That’s only what we’re doing now. We create that, or that is created. But when we’re just living, it’s calm.”
JG: “Is it calm, Paul?”
PAUL: “Yeah. Not at the moment, you know. It’s hectic– New York. Very hectic place. ‘Cuz we came over from England and it’s a very sort of quiet place, you know.”
JG: “What’s so different about New York?”
JOHN: “Louder.”
PAUL: “It’s very… (imitates cars honking and police sirens) …you know.”
(laughter)
JG: (jokingly) “You’ve got a hit record on your hands already!”
PAUL: “You know, that happens alot here.”
JG: “Don’t you like that kind of life?”
JOHN: “It’s alright. You get into it. I mean, three days isn’t enough to get used to that.”
JG: “Would you ‘like’ to get into it?”
JOHN: “Ahh, not today.”
TB: (laughs) “Are you nervous on a show like this?”
PAUL: “Always nervous.”
JOHN: “Yeah, sure. Sure.”
JG: “Why would you be nervous?”
JOHN: “Because, uhh… It’s not natural.”
(laughter)
JG: “I don’t know, I’m just kind of visiting with you… I would feel it’s natural. I feel like I’ve read about you and I want to meet you.”
JOHN: “I mean, this ‘situation’ isn’t natural.”
PAUL: “If we meet you and talk at your house, then that’s alright you know, because we can actually talk naturally. It’s a bit difficult when you know you’re going out into a million homes.”
JG: “So you’re guarded, pretty well, in what you say then?”
JOHN: “No, not guarded.”
PAUL: “No, but it’s still difficult, you know. (gesturing to the camera crew) There it is!! Look!! It’s going out!!!”
(laughter)
JOHN: “Well, aren’t you nervous at all?”
JG: “I am nervous because of the… uhh…”
JOHN: (comically) “Well, because– because– because!!! But it’s the same thing!”
(laughter)
JG: “Except that you are very successful in what you do.”
JOHN: “It doesn’t make any difference.”
JG: “So what you’re telling me is that you have fears and anxieties like everybody else?”
JOHN: “Sure! We’re human, man!”
PAUL: “You know that old showbiz thing everybody says, ‘Well, you know, you always get nervous before you go on the stage.’ Uhh, I think we get ’em all the way. When you go on stage it’s just one of those things.”
JG: “But you get over that alright.”
JOHN: “Oh sure. It’s part of the game.”
JG: “Listen now, I have something in common with both of you. I met the guru, the Maharishi. And I noticed that he went out with an act– the Beach Boys. And it folded.”
JOHN: “Yeah. Right.”
JG: “What do you think of the Yogi as an act?”
JOHN: “Yeah. Well, we found out that we made a mistake there.”
PAUL: “We tried to persuade him against that, you know. I thought it was a terrible idea.”
JOHN: “We believe in meditation, but not the Maharishi and his scene. But that’s a personal mistake we made in public.”
JG: “When did you find out it was a mistake?”
JOHN: “Well, uhh, I can’t remember the date, you know, but it was in India. And meditation is good, and it does what they say. It’s like exercise or cleaning your teeth, you know. It works, but uhh, we’ve finished with that bit.”
ED McMAHON: “Has he changed? Is that what…”
JOHN: “Well, no. I think it’s just that we’re seeing him a bit more in perspective, you know, ‘cuz we’re as naive as the next person about alot of things.”
PAUL: “We get carried away with things like that, though. I mean, we thought he was… uhh… magic, you know– just floating around and everything. Flying.”
JG: “Do you think the kids in America have turned him off?”
JOHN: “Well, it could be something to do with it. But I wouldn’t say, ‘Don’t meditate’ to them, because alot of them would get a great deal from it.”
PAUL: “You know, the system is more important than all those things.”
JOHN: “He’s surrounded with, it seems like, the old establishment that we know so well.”
JG: “Are you saying, ‘Meditate, but not with the Yogi’?”
PAUL: (long pause) “Yeah. I mean, he’s good. There’s nothing wrong with him. But we think the system is more important than all the two-bit personality bit. You know, he gets sort of treated like a big star. He’s on the road with the Beach Boys, and it’s all that scene. And also… It folds, you know. That’s the silly thing.”
(laughter)
TB: “Does he giggle as much as…”
JOHN: “Yes. It’s his natural asset.”
(laughter)
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